tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post4216641718972512341..comments2023-07-06T15:13:58.702-06:00Comments on Garden Valley Daily News: Playing Sort-of Hardball With SuperintendentAngel (Anjali Suzanne Angel)http://www.blogger.com/profile/04139842914967924988noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-6264217259143849622011-03-02T07:55:43.241-07:002011-03-02T07:55:43.241-07:00Great, Dave, send a message to cut programs for ki...Great, Dave, send a message to cut programs for kids because you don't like one guy, because he stood up to you and your wife and supported the music teacher.<br /><br />You people are just mean.<br /><br />Forget who is where other than our kids are in school. Vote YES for the kids. <br /><br />If you want power, then use it when voting for Trustees. Not by voting against teachers and kids.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-54917422559615304872011-03-02T07:33:31.263-07:002011-03-02T07:33:31.263-07:00Looks to me like the highest percentage of cuts wi...Looks to me like the highest percentage of cuts with the Levy will affect the kids and teachers and smaller amount will affect admin in the form of a secretary that is retiring regardless of the Levy. January minutes state that the Super's contract was tabled due to Budget concerns. Pass the Levy = extending Tomlin’s contract. If you do not want Tomlin on the SD payroll, do not pass the Levy and send a message to the Board. It is the community's only tool. Don't let this new found power pass you by. Look over the past couple years at all the conflict that involves the school and Tomlin's name pops up everywhere. He is not good for our community and absolutely not good for our school. May 15th all core teachers up to 19.5 positions will be signed unless that number drops and right now that legislation is stuck in the Senate. Don’t expect much of a drop, maybe .5 at the most. Other contracts can be signed later. Vote "NO". Send a message!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-7986029330606067662011-03-01T15:36:30.822-07:002011-03-01T15:36:30.822-07:00Annon 3:04...so if it DID happen between the board...Annon 3:04...so if it DID happen between the board & Tomlin, then it's been dealt with and life has moved on...why can't you? It's called "water under the bridge"....why keep trying to bring that back up? <br /><br />I think you can blame the friends for starting the whole mess! <br /><br />Annon 2:49..who is Mr. Garden? You mean Gardner? That's a great idea...send Mr. Vian back to school. Lets see, he's about 63, has been a principal for about 100 years...why are we sending him to school? Big difference between he & "the boy" who didn't even have a certificate to BE a principal. THAT'S why they sent him to school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-61112234158041004042011-03-01T15:04:10.071-07:002011-03-01T15:04:10.071-07:00You can only blame the "friends" so much...You can only blame the "friends" so much. They are not behind everything and certainly don't speak for me.<br /><br />Al Marion did have reason to say what he did and if anyone had cared to listen at the time I doubt we'd still be talking about it now.<br /><br />And let's not assume that nothing has been proven or that Tomlin has not been reprimanded or even disciplined by the board. They cannot talk about it to the general public but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-60832015242323969052011-03-01T14:49:54.639-07:002011-03-01T14:49:54.639-07:00mr. garden was supt and principal and we had horse...mr. garden was supt and principal and we had horseshoebend kids here, many more students. a good freind doesn't charge $150.00 per hour for advice.important idea. make prinicpal both positions, everyone respects him. send him to school like Fisher, save money and teachersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-30770035547972756602011-03-01T13:21:58.598-07:002011-03-01T13:21:58.598-07:00Annon 1:16...Amen to that. How can ANYONE questio...Annon 1:16...Amen to that. How can ANYONE question why we have lawyers present at board meetings? The school can't seem to do anything without someone crying foul. Only problem is, it's all been crying, and nothing ever proven. Probably because there IS nothing to prove! Wasted money, that's for sure...but who can blame them. You can't beat a good "friend"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-2825694380581086472011-03-01T13:16:45.288-07:002011-03-01T13:16:45.288-07:00Anon 12:35,
The super overseeing and managing own...Anon 12:35,<br /><br />The super overseeing and managing ownership issues is very different from staff being certified to do the physical work. Why do teachers get certificates? Yet in every school there is a principal overseeing the work.<br /><br />The attorney is expensive but ever since Al Marion accused the district of "corruption" and Marion Summers and others made charges and accusations, the board decided to have representation.<br /><br />No corruption. No validity to charges. Just a very expensive cost out of our kids' classrooms.<br /><br />Thanks "Friends."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-87503621160395563982011-03-01T12:35:35.004-07:002011-03-01T12:35:35.004-07:00the board should not have bought the land that doe...the board should not have bought the land that does not perk(sold to school my board member/realtor) if supt must oversee operations of all things in school, why send cody to school to learn testing. every special meeting they talk to school lawyer, whats that cost?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-29354103292277376742011-03-01T09:07:42.002-07:002011-03-01T09:07:42.002-07:00The Dept. of Education sets regulations and requir...The Dept. of Education sets regulations and requirements of your district as the same with all schools. However, your school is NOT like other schools. Not only are they ensuring our children are learning every day, but they ensure that every federal and state report is done and done correctly. Additionally, they are literally responsible for running a small city. The school does not have city water. The administration is required to test, report and manage the water that the children, teachers and patrons drink. The school does not have city sewer. The administration has a massive technological system that requires testing, reporting and oversight. The school does not require Idaho Power to heat the building. Rather, they have a biomass system with its own regulations and requirements separate from anything anyone has ever seen. All of this is above and beyond what is required of administrators at any other district in Idaho.<br /><br />Soon, the laws coming our way will require the principal to be in the classrooms even more than what is required now. Continue stating we need only a .25 FTE or a .50 FTE superintendent and a .25 FTE and a .50 FTE principal is unrealistic. What are you willing to sacrifice for your child and their teachers? Shall we allow them to be sick from tainted drinking water from lack of oversight? Shall we allow them to be sick from a septic system that’s not being overseen correctly? How about football games? The water that is placed on the grass requires an astronomical amount of oversight to make sure the athletes and spectators do not become gravely ill. Someone please choose.<br /> <br />This board has a responsibility and it takes a .80 FTE supt. to oversee it all and so much more. It takes a full-time principal to ensure our children have what they need to succeed. What are you willing to sacrifice?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-50319990493447909652011-03-01T08:30:58.703-07:002011-03-01T08:30:58.703-07:00Thanks Mike...very good information to know.
An...Thanks Mike...very good information to know. <br /><br />Annon: 8:17...go back to the other blog where you belong. There doesn't seem to be the "haters" here that that blog has/promotes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-47597055980186633592011-03-01T08:27:21.869-07:002011-03-01T08:27:21.869-07:00Argue, argue.
Some of you people would let a hous...Argue, argue.<br /><br />Some of you people would let a house burn down while you argued about what the fire chief gets paid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-52623141599572187172011-03-01T05:57:43.115-07:002011-03-01T05:57:43.115-07:00"Many districts."
"Other districts..."Many districts."<br /><br />"Other districts."<br /><br />Right. Other countries have trash in the streets and no sewers. What is your point?<br /><br />Remember that the $148,000 is based upon the degrees and experience of Vian and Tomlin. Take one out of the picture or reduce their time and the allocation goes down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-51935586203580089732011-02-28T22:39:37.730-07:002011-02-28T22:39:37.730-07:009:58 --
Please provide references for your assert...9:58 --<br /><br />Please provide references for your assertion that "many districts our size or even with more students do not have a super at even .8 FTE." I honestly want to know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-40523306083177121882011-02-28T21:58:47.248-07:002011-02-28T21:58:47.248-07:00We have to have a super but many districts our siz...We have to have a super but many districts our size or even with more students do not have a super at even .8 FTE as we do. I would favor a combination of the positions or sharing a super with another district. Someone (taxpayers) foot the bill no matter what our reimbursement is. Other districts also do not have a super at our FTE and a full time business manager, each with their own assistants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-28656451296783658852011-02-28T21:50:46.939-07:002011-02-28T21:50:46.939-07:00Don't you folks get it that the district is *r...Don't you folks get it that the district is *required by state law* to have a superintendent? And not a principal? Our principal is not certified to be a superintendent, but our superintendent can be a principal. Just who do you want to put on the chopping block?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-81656625811560666092011-02-28T21:24:56.521-07:002011-02-28T21:24:56.521-07:00Trust but verify.Trust but verify.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-70814868121067279762011-02-28T20:17:24.567-07:002011-02-28T20:17:24.567-07:00Excellent - so if we saved even more in wages for ...Excellent - so if we saved even more in wages for the admin, we could inject more into the general fund. Let's get on that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-51031813351265863202011-02-28T20:14:18.279-07:002011-02-28T20:14:18.279-07:00Thanks, Mike. I hope these numbers quiet some of t...Thanks, Mike. I hope these numbers quiet some of the yammering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-76809941947330760152011-02-28T20:09:41.889-07:002011-02-28T20:09:41.889-07:00Today I asked the business manager to pull the num...Today I asked the business manager to pull the numbers requested above, then visit directly with the State Department of Education and verify them. That has been done. These are the numbers from the SDE.<br /><br />We claim 1.8 FTE, 1 for the Principal, and .8 for me as superintendent. GVSD has historically claimed as little as 1.5, and as much as 2.0. <br /><br />The State grants 1.845 plus an additional .5 as a "below 40 classroom unit" floor. Our exact allocation is 2.345.<br /><br />We receive $148,700 for administrative salaries. Your principal is paid $60,000, and your super is paid $72,000. Those equal $132,000. <br /><br />Because of years experience and advanced degrees, the amount alloted is more than the costs, by $16,700. <br /><br />The state reimburses PERSI and FICA, but the district pays a percentage of the health and other insurance for employees. This year that amount was cut and capped at $325 per month. That equals $3,900 each for the two administrators, or $7800 total. <br /><br />That leaves $8,900 ($16,700 - $7,800) excess that goes straight into the general fund.<br /><br />Your district historically has been very lean in administration, and it continues to be very lean.<br /><br />I hope this helps.<br /><br />Mikemtomlinhttp://www.gvsd.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-59492691767999212432011-02-28T15:13:33.174-07:002011-02-28T15:13:33.174-07:00According to the State Department of Education'...According to the State Department of Education's data which you can get on their website with some patience and digging, GVSD is reimbursed $96,633.19 for both the super and the principal. According to ouridaho.com the super's salary without benefits is $72K. That leaves $26,633 to pay for the principal salary (that salary isn't published yet).<br /><br />So it would seem we would likely have to dip into the general fund to keep both positions as they stand right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-35872536131104696842011-02-28T14:46:17.022-07:002011-02-28T14:46:17.022-07:00the teacher must follow state curriculum, teach st...the teacher must follow state curriculum, teach state approved classes, have special state certification,approved by state agency, and pass state evaluation. Lots of extra work for teacher up and above normal requirements. the state approves program not supt or board. money is used by teacher for program and approved by state and teacher uses money as they see fit for there program. could be new computors , shop tools,supplies but not desks,or chairs etc.A approved budget is sent to state a year advance,and if approved program receives money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-22937291292131903722011-02-28T14:17:13.687-07:002011-02-28T14:17:13.687-07:00What about the reimbursement for the 1.8 administr...What about the reimbursement for the 1.8 administrators?<br /><br />And also isn't the tech teacher free - that's what we heard in a meeting before she came.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-71427605082049132542011-02-28T13:14:52.870-07:002011-02-28T13:14:52.870-07:00Not gone, brought back by the new super and princi...Not gone, brought back by the new super and principal, approved by the board. We have Business Technology (I think that is the name) and the district says they get about $6,000 in special funds from the state.<br /><br />What a great bonus for our kids and taxpayers. Thanks GVSD! Well done by the board too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-22579125748358266242011-02-28T12:39:58.504-07:002011-02-28T12:39:58.504-07:00for many years the computor program and industrial...for many years the computor program and industrial arts programs where subsidized by state programs. what happened to these programs? gone now! I heard that these programs received anywhere from $6000 to $10,000 a year just to buy things for there program. what a great bonus for our kids and taxpayers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2912122654551992280.post-18124731123562521222011-02-28T10:04:25.211-07:002011-02-28T10:04:25.211-07:00But the 1.8 still does not tell the actual dollar ...But the 1.8 still does not tell the actual dollar amount the state funds for those positions. It's not a blank check. If there is a deficit in the reimbursement, the difference comes out of the general fund. So please tell us the real cost coming out of the general fund to have both a principal and super in Garden Valley. <br /><br />I suspect this question will never be answered because we do have to subsidize both of those positions out of the general fund. It's not just salary, but benefits as well. <br /><br />It's not a trick question - what does the state pay and what do we have to come up with?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com